Comments on: Emergent and Emerging Church Distinction http://dougpagitt.com/2008/09/emergent-and-emerging-church-distinction/ Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:24:57 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: tsfGodguy http://dougpagitt.com/2008/09/emergent-and-emerging-church-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-867 tsfGodguy Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:40:36 +0000 http://dougpagitt.com/?p=326#comment-867 John, I almost agree with 100%. I think that's the most I will say here as I find the "redefinition" of the reality of the place of Emergent verses the emerging church movement being offered to be a little disturbing. Say it often and maybe people will believe you? The emerging church (a general term) is a subset of Emergent (a group within the movement is somehow suppose to be larger than the movement)? Oh well..... John, I almost agree with 100%. I think that’s the most I will say here as I find the “redefinition” of the reality of the place of Emergent verses the emerging church movement being offered to be a little disturbing. Say it often and maybe people will believe you? The emerging church (a general term) is a subset of Emergent (a group within the movement is somehow suppose to be larger than the movement)?

Oh well…..

]]> By: emergingworshiper http://dougpagitt.com/2008/09/emergent-and-emerging-church-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-856 emergingworshiper Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:13:48 +0000 http://dougpagitt.com/?p=326#comment-856 Hmmm. Interesting take Doug. I think most people would see the Emergent Village network as a subset of the larger emerging church movement, which is itself a subset of the larger postmodern shift. I think Dan and others who are seeking to create a new network within the emerging church movement are doing so because of the theological differences they have with some in Emergent Village. I’d be interested to know why you cast that as something “smaller”? Or did I miss your point? Hmmm. Interesting take Doug. I think most people would see the Emergent Village network as a subset of the larger emerging church movement, which is itself a subset of the larger postmodern shift. I think Dan and others who are seeking to create a new network within the emerging church movement are doing so because of the theological differences they have with some in Emergent Village. I’d be interested to know why you cast that as something “smaller”? Or did I miss your point?

]]> By: many kinds of emerging church : djchuang.com http://dougpagitt.com/2008/09/emergent-and-emerging-church-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-848 many kinds of emerging church : djchuang.com Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:27:40 +0000 http://dougpagitt.com/?p=326#comment-848 [...] [update 10/8/08] Doug Pagitt on video weights in with Emergent and Emerging Church Distinction [...] [...] [update 10/8/08] Doug Pagitt on video weights in with Emergent and Emerging Church Distinction [...]

]]> By: WHO IS PHYLLIS TICKLE? - Reformata http://dougpagitt.com/2008/09/emergent-and-emerging-church-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-833 WHO IS PHYLLIS TICKLE? - Reformata Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:49:34 +0000 http://dougpagitt.com/?p=326#comment-833 [...] The Great Emergence Event December 5-6 in Memphis. It is going to be an excellent event” (Online source). As we follow the link to The Great Emergence Event (TGEE) we’re enlightened: ‘The [...] [...] The Great Emergence Event December 5-6 in Memphis. It is going to be an excellent event” (Online source). As we follow the link to The Great Emergence Event (TGEE) we’re enlightened: ‘The [...]

]]> By: Brian from Aus http://dougpagitt.com/2008/09/emergent-and-emerging-church-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-750 Brian from Aus Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:08:04 +0000 http://dougpagitt.com/?p=326#comment-750 Emergence is the larger movement and emerging is the local process in my mind. Emergent sounds to much like so many defined theological tags to me. Ultimately the tag debate is irrelevant to articulating the passion for relevant missional engagement Emergence is the larger movement and emerging is the local process in my mind. Emergent sounds to much like so many defined theological tags to me. Ultimately the tag debate is irrelevant to articulating the passion for relevant missional engagement

]]> By: The EMC as an NSM « Tony Jones http://dougpagitt.com/2008/09/emergent-and-emerging-church-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-738 The EMC as an NSM « Tony Jones Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:42:36 +0000 http://dougpagitt.com/?p=326#comment-738 [...] the current debates on the labels is simply this: the labels/names/brands mean very little.  As Doug noted recently, and as Phyllis’s book makes abundantly clear, there are broader cultural forces at play [...] [...] the current debates on the labels is simply this: the labels/names/brands mean very little.  As Doug noted recently, and as Phyllis’s book makes abundantly clear, there are broader cultural forces at play [...]

]]> By: Mission, Missional, and Missionary « Emerging Chaos http://dougpagitt.com/2008/09/emergent-and-emerging-church-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-735 Mission, Missional, and Missionary « Emerging Chaos Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:07:14 +0000 http://dougpagitt.com/?p=326#comment-735 [...] McKnight started a discussion on Emerging vs. Emergent in June. Doug Pagitt does a video blog on Emerging and Emergent Church Distinction. I blogged about missional last year. It seems the current trend is toward more missional [...] [...] McKnight started a discussion on Emerging vs. Emergent in June. Doug Pagitt does a video blog on Emerging and Emergent Church Distinction. I blogged about missional last year. It seems the current trend is toward more missional [...]

]]> By: Bob http://dougpagitt.com/2008/09/emergent-and-emerging-church-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-734 Bob Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:07:54 +0000 http://dougpagitt.com/?p=326#comment-734 blah blah blah... it scares me that anyone would be interested in a pastor who can't answer basic Biblical questions. listen to the interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVnPvXqdmNg blah blah blah… it scares me that anyone would be interested in a pastor who can’t answer basic Biblical questions.

listen to the interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVnPvXqdmNg

]]> By: John http://dougpagitt.com/2008/09/emergent-and-emerging-church-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-725 John Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:40:25 +0000 http://dougpagitt.com/?p=326#comment-725 I agree that "Emergence" is the largest category with "emerging church" being something of a sub-set of that, but I think it is highly presumptuous to place Emergent Village as "the" network of "Emergence", with the wider "emerging church" being an even smaller subset. I greatly appreciate EV, but your talk of some people branding was rather disingenuous. While I know that EV did not/does not intend to be brand driven, can you really deny that branding has been a significant result, even if only by popular perception? Of course "Emergence" and the "emerging church" are not dead/gone, though the language is slowly falling out of fashion. I think EV would better represent itself with the humility to acknowledge it's mistakes, it's limits and it's important (but very specific) scope. I agree that “Emergence” is the largest category with “emerging church” being something of a sub-set of that, but I think it is highly presumptuous to place Emergent Village as “the” network of “Emergence”, with the wider “emerging church” being an even smaller subset.

I greatly appreciate EV, but your talk of some people branding was rather disingenuous. While I know that EV did not/does not intend to be brand driven, can you really deny that branding has been a significant result, even if only by popular perception?

Of course “Emergence” and the “emerging church” are not dead/gone, though the language is slowly falling out of fashion. I think EV would better represent itself with the humility to acknowledge it’s mistakes, it’s limits and it’s important (but very specific) scope.

]]> By: Jeff Straka http://dougpagitt.com/2008/09/emergent-and-emerging-church-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-715 Jeff Straka Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:19:05 +0000 http://dougpagitt.com/?p=326#comment-715 I hate how we tend to get hung up on terminology - we seem to always be seeking ways to form hard-walled containers for thoughts and ideas never meant to be captured. I think your re-defining of the "E-words" here is spot-on. And I think this conference/conversation in Memphis based on Phyllis' prophetic book will be a pivotal, if not historical point in where we go from here! I will see you there! I hate how we tend to get hung up on terminology – we seem to always be seeking ways to form hard-walled containers for thoughts and ideas never meant to be captured. I think your re-defining of the “E-words” here is spot-on. And I think this conference/conversation in Memphis based on Phyllis’ prophetic book will be a pivotal, if not historical point in where we go from here! I will see you there!

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